Has anyone tried contacting the Bbc to see if they're interested in covering the story? At this following link you can suggest a debate for the world service, an idea could be ' should a religion be allowed to discriminate against former members by shunning anyone who disagrees with their doctrine?' (just a general idea, I'm not good with words). Then give a link to the 'mentally diseased article' because they ask you to reference somewhere it's being discussed, this could get worldwide interest.. http://worldhaveyoursay.wordpress.com/suggest-a-debate/
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"Mentally diseased" article to be published in The Independent tomorrow
by cedars inhi everyone.
as a parting gift to you all before i take a much needed break from this forum, i thought you would be pleased to know that the independent, a leading uk newspaper, will be publishing a piece on the "mentally diseased" watchtower article in tomorrow's edition.. i would like to thank everybody who has assisted the journalist, jerome taylor, in his investigation.. best wishes to all of you,.
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"Mentally diseased" article to be published in The Independent tomorrow
by cedars inhi everyone.
as a parting gift to you all before i take a much needed break from this forum, i thought you would be pleased to know that the independent, a leading uk newspaper, will be publishing a piece on the "mentally diseased" watchtower article in tomorrow's edition.. i would like to thank everybody who has assisted the journalist, jerome taylor, in his investigation.. best wishes to all of you,.
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Poland: Latest info on WTBTS's involvement with OSCE (Organiztion for Security and Co-operation in Europe). Meetings begin Oct. 26th and end Oct. 7th
by AndersonsInfo inthe wtbts has, since withdrawing their ngo status with the un in 2001, been using a number of key wtbts representatives to build up a rapport with government officials and un representatives in relation to countries and areas the society is having trouble with, france ($$$), russia, singapore, georgia, armenia, azerbaijan, korea, to name a few.. .
the osce maintains special relations with 12 countries, which are known as partners for co-operation.
mediterranean partners for co-operation.
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Why has this not been publicised in the same way as the UN ngo scandal? Has anyone spoken to a journalist about writing an article on jw's having an ngo affiliation with the OSCE? Here's something that I found that seems relevant.. "The OSCE (Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe) recently held a Conference entitled "Human Dimension Implementation Meeting," in Warsaw, Poland, from September 24 - October 5, 2007. On its official website all members were invited: Welcome "The Human Dimension Implementation Meeting is the largest human rights conference in Europe. It is also the only such event where representatives of civil society sit with governments on an equal footing. For two weeks, OSCE delegations, intergovernmental agencies, and NGOs come together to discuss the implementation of OSCE commitments on the protection of human rights, therule of law, and democracy." — Ambassador Christian Strohal, ODIHR Director. see http://www.osce.org/conferences/hdim_2007.html Note that at the OSCE conference the "representatives of civil society sit with governments on an equal footing." Its extensive attendance list also included representatives of Jehovah's Witnesses" "Also it has been shown by a fellow servant of Jehovah that no one, except a government, can "join" the OSCE. Just like the UN, the Warsaw Pact or NATO, it is comprised only of governments. One can petition to become a recognized NGO (NON-governmental organization) in order to obtain standing with the OSCE. In order to become a recognized NGO, one must declare support for the governing charter. So they joined to the fullest extent they could possibly join. This is just as bad if not worse than the direct joining of the UN as an NGO, with that we perhaps had an excuse, as given by the society, but this there is no longer any way to avoid the subtle support of these governmental organizations." http://perimeno.ca/Letters_1107_OSCE.htm
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"Mentally Diseased" comment - help needed
by sizemik ina complaint regarding this comment was forwarded about a week ago to the nz human rights commission.. it was simply an email outlining the complaint and quoting the paragraph in question.. today i recieved a request for more information as follows .
my name is robert hallowell; i work at the human rights commission as its legal counsel.. .
thank you for your email of 14 september 2011. would you be able to send me a copy of the particular edition of watchtower or a copy of the article that you enquired about?.
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I'd love to hear what you have sent as a reply, or at least what the reaction was at a later date if you're too busy now.. Well done for making the effort however it all turns out
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History & facts show NOBODY individuals or group,I.D.themselves as Jehovahs Witnesses b4 Judge Rutherford in the mid 1930`s
by smiddy inno body or group in the hebrew sriptures ( o/t ) ever identified themselves as a jehovah`s witness.
no body or group in the christian greek sriptures ( n t ) ever identified themselves as a jehovah`s witness.
in fact the word" jehovah" never appeared before the 12th century.
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Acts 11:26 --Young's Literal Translation "and having found him, he brought him to Antioch, and it came to pass that they a whole year did assemble together in the assembly, and taught a great multitude, the disciples also were divinely called first in Antioch Christians." Note the word divinely..
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UK newspaper interest in "mentally diseased", any Witnesses want to come forward?
by cedars infollowing the recent activity surrounding the "mentally diseased" apostate article, a major uk newspaper has expressed an interest in covering the story.
the correspondent as been told about this forum, and he is particularly interested in hearing from those inside the organisation, as i think few people are aware of how much unrest there is actually within witness ranks at the teachings of the society.. would anybody like to be used as a source, either anonymously or otherwise?
if so, it might be worthwhile saying a few words on this thread.
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UK newspaper interest in "mentally diseased", any Witnesses want to come forward?
by cedars infollowing the recent activity surrounding the "mentally diseased" apostate article, a major uk newspaper has expressed an interest in covering the story.
the correspondent as been told about this forum, and he is particularly interested in hearing from those inside the organisation, as i think few people are aware of how much unrest there is actually within witness ranks at the teachings of the society.. would anybody like to be used as a source, either anonymously or otherwise?
if so, it might be worthwhile saying a few words on this thread.
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As an active Jehovahs Witness I am constantly afraid that one day I might slip up and say something that would make my family (most of them are Witnesses) realise that I no longer believe that the Governing Body are directed by God, as I know what would happen.. I would be labelled an 'apostate', shunned and hated by my Jehovahs Witness family, and nobody I know in the organisation (we're encouraged to only be friends with people who are jw's, so that would mean almost everyone that I am closest to) would be allowed to speak to me. According to the July 15th watchtower study edition I would be viewed as 'mentally diseased', simply for not being able to believe that the Governing Body should be unquestioningly obeyed in all things, as though they were speaking for God himself, as I feel there is no evidence to support such a claim. This study article reminded me of how I would be seen, and how I would be treated, by my Jw family if I ever dared to express my views on the Governing Body to anyone. The fear of being labelled as an enemy, an 'apostate', and being shunned by those closest to me will prevent me from ever truly being myself. And I'll have to live the rest of my life knowing that my Witness family will only continue to treat me lovingly if I never speak about my so called 'mentally-diseased' views.
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The Hubble, Yahweh, the Bible, and faith.
by Nickolas inthere have been several threads in which the views of the universe provided by the hubble space telescope have been discussed.
i guess this will be another one.
there's a new series being broadcast here in canada on the oasis hd nature channel entitled hubble's canvas.
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(I'm leaving for an indefinite period, just saying in case anyone worries. Hope I've been of some use.) Nickolas said: "God does some very human things in the Bible." - Its hardly surprising when you read this.. Genesis 1:26 >> New International Version (©1984) Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, andlet them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
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Meddling
by The Quiet One inwt july 15, 2011 page 18 paragraph 15 "meddlers in other people's affairs".
it is not our right to tell others how to run their personal affairs'' anybody here ever been told to do something/how to do something by an elder or other jw?
in regards to job situation/family for example, with no direct scriptural backing...
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Roxanesophia - Excellent point. I've seen times when, if a single sister and a single brother just happen to sit next to each other, jw's started thinking they were going out! And their sitting together was just a one-off..
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IT BOILS ME!! (Venting)
by pubtruth inwell my uncle just called me and told me he was visiting tomorrow, asking about family and such.
good, no objection to that.
he asked to put mom on the phone, so i did.
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It sounds like going to college or at least some kind of course could help you to get some space from your mother, can you enrol anywhere at the moment? Anyway, I hope that these might help in the mean time.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/183134/1/Being-Under-Cult-Mind-Control-is-a-Psychological-Disorder-Steve-Hassan http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/204194/1/Steve-Hassan-pdf-version-for-sale